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> <channel><title>Comments on: To marathon or not to marathon? A little fun with numbers.</title> <atom:link href="http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/</link> <description>A blog about anime, Hinagiku, Horo, Haruhi and any other girls that start with an H</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:45:44 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: RP</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1301</link> <dc:creator>RP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:01:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1301</guid> <description>Marathoning I think is something that needs to naturally mushroom out. You can&#039;t force yourself to marathon a show more than you can force yourself to continue swallowing spoonfuls of medicine. Like you mention, 2-4 episodes is a pretty good rate for me, but depending on the show, I have gone 6-7+ episodes a day (provided I had the time).
Haruhi is an example of that. I finished that show in about 24-48 hours (granted I had plenty of breaks in between each episode). Towards the end of Death Note, I probably was doing 8-10 episodes a day, and maybe 6-7 episodes a sitting. But that was a rare occurrence where I was just hooked by the story and &lt;em&gt;had&lt;/em&gt; to know what came next.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marathoning I think is something that needs to naturally mushroom out. You can&#8217;t force yourself to marathon a show more than you can force yourself to continue swallowing spoonfuls of medicine. Like you mention, 2-4 episodes is a pretty good rate for me, but depending on the show, I have gone 6-7+ episodes a day (provided I had the time).</p><p>Haruhi is an example of that. I finished that show in about 24-48 hours (granted I had plenty of breaks in between each episode). Towards the end of Death Note, I probably was doing 8-10 episodes a day, and maybe 6-7 episodes a sitting. But that was a rare occurrence where I was just hooked by the story and <em>had</em> to know what came next.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kadian1364</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1295</link> <dc:creator>kadian1364</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:12:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1295</guid> <description>First, I&#039;d argue that the most important thing in this marathon-vs-not-marathon decision is how it will affect the experience of great shows. Yeah, doing one or the other can improve bad shows or exacerbate their problems, but in the end, we don&#039;t prioritize suckage at the possible cost of the devaluing the top shows. It&#039;s just not worth it.
So then we ask, what&#039;s the pace that optimizes the enjoyment of those that are &quot;worth it&quot;? We want enough time to reflect on major events, but not feel starved for days. I feel weekly watching is way too slow, so I&#039;ll always go back to rewatch the things I really liked. On the other hand, hard marathons (6 or 7 episodes in a sitting) are too much. A lot of us just don&#039;t have that kind of time, and personally, I feel drained after that kind of thing. Like, no way I can do that on consecutive days, especially on the same anime.
I find my optimum pace is something like 2-4 episodes a day, depending on the pace of the series itself. For example, I took Planetes at 2 episodes a night, and doubled that pace just at the end of the series. Aria I watched 1 episode a night, and LotGH at 2-3. Yeah, so those two took a couple months to get through, but I feel I maximized the value I got. I think my patience was rewarded.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I&#8217;d argue that the most important thing in this marathon-vs-not-marathon decision is how it will affect the experience of great shows. Yeah, doing one or the other can improve bad shows or exacerbate their problems, but in the end, we don&#8217;t prioritize suckage at the possible cost of the devaluing the top shows. It&#8217;s just not worth it.</p><p>So then we ask, what&#8217;s the pace that optimizes the enjoyment of those that are &#8220;worth it&#8221;? We want enough time to reflect on major events, but not feel starved for days. I feel weekly watching is way too slow, so I&#8217;ll always go back to rewatch the things I really liked. On the other hand, hard marathons (6 or 7 episodes in a sitting) are too much. A lot of us just don&#8217;t have that kind of time, and personally, I feel drained after that kind of thing. Like, no way I can do that on consecutive days, especially on the same anime.</p><p>I find my optimum pace is something like 2-4 episodes a day, depending on the pace of the series itself. For example, I took Planetes at 2 episodes a night, and doubled that pace just at the end of the series. Aria I watched 1 episode a night, and LotGH at 2-3. Yeah, so those two took a couple months to get through, but I feel I maximized the value I got. I think my patience was rewarded.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RP</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1278</link> <dc:creator>RP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:42:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1278</guid> <description>I agree that you&#039;re more likely to smooth out flaws than devalue awesome moments, but eventually you&#039;d hit a point where too many flaws hurts the smoothing effect, and in fact may make the flaws more grating. Any show that got to the point of being drop-worthy would be an example of that.
I think it&#039;s interesting that once I took away my top 5, I rated the shows I watched weekly higher, both in overall averages and compared to the global averages (of the 8+ group at least). That doesn&#039;t really prove anything, since the list includes completely different shows and there&#039;s no real control. But it may suggest that the smoothing effect is limited.
Now to be completely honest, I will admit that I was more likely to initially rate a show I marathoned higher, then come back later and downgrade it a point or two. I didn&#039;t do that with too many shows, and I wish I had some numbers to quantify that, but it&#039;s possible that if you took my original scores, you&#039;d see the smoothing effect more in play.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that you&#8217;re more likely to smooth out flaws than devalue awesome moments, but eventually you&#8217;d hit a point where too many flaws hurts the smoothing effect, and in fact may make the flaws more grating. Any show that got to the point of being drop-worthy would be an example of that.</p><p>I think it&#8217;s interesting that once I took away my top 5, I rated the shows I watched weekly higher, both in overall averages and compared to the global averages (of the 8+ group at least). That doesn&#8217;t really prove anything, since the list includes completely different shows and there&#8217;s no real control. But it may suggest that the smoothing effect is limited.</p><p>Now to be completely honest, I will admit that I was more likely to initially rate a show I marathoned higher, then come back later and downgrade it a point or two. I didn&#8217;t do that with too many shows, and I wish I had some numbers to quantify that, but it&#8217;s possible that if you took my original scores, you&#8217;d see the smoothing effect more in play.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: super rats</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1274</link> <dc:creator>super rats</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:11:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1274</guid> <description>I think that&#039;s so true. It wasn&#039;t until legal streaming that I started watching shows weekly. I couldn&#039;t finish anything I started last season, because I just forgot to keep up, since I wasn&#039;t really big on anything. Being able to watch a block of shows at a time on dvd does smooth things out a bit. If a show is just mediocre or takes a while to get to what&#039;s going on, I forget about it the next week, then two, three, four weeks go by. With a dvd, I just hit the next button and there&#039;s less chance of breaking the chain.
About the only downside of doing a marathon with a great show is there isn&#039;t that anticipation of waiting to find out what happens. The great moments still feel great, so I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a huge detriment to enjoying a great show this way.
.-= super rats´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Happysoda/~3/hs81Gg-kMXA/what-my-top-5-anime-says&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What My Top 5 Anime Says&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s so true. It wasn&#8217;t until legal streaming that I started watching shows weekly. I couldn&#8217;t finish anything I started last season, because I just forgot to keep up, since I wasn&#8217;t really big on anything. Being able to watch a block of shows at a time on dvd does smooth things out a bit. If a show is just mediocre or takes a while to get to what&#8217;s going on, I forget about it the next week, then two, three, four weeks go by. With a dvd, I just hit the next button and there&#8217;s less chance of breaking the chain.</p><p>About the only downside of doing a marathon with a great show is there isn&#8217;t that anticipation of waiting to find out what happens. The great moments still feel great, so I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a huge detriment to enjoying a great show this way.<br
/> .-= super rats´s last blog ..<a
href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Happysoda/~3/hs81Gg-kMXA/what-my-top-5-anime-says" rel="nofollow">What My Top 5 Anime Says</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kabitzin</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1273</link> <dc:creator>Kabitzin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:59:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1273</guid> <description>Personally, I feel like marathoning evens out the quality of a series.  This makes uneven/flawed series easier to take, but it also takes away some of the highs of really great series because you are past the best moments in an instant.  As there are more flawed shows than awesome shows, and it seems to be easier and more effective to smooth out flaws than really devalue awesome moments, I think the magnitude of the positive effect that marathoning has on flawed shows is greater than that of the negative effect on awesome shows.  I wonder how the numbers would change if you added in the marathoned/weekly shows that you dropped, as those tend to be much worse and would really change the numbers.
.-= Kabitzin´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/seaslugteam/~3/dVW_r4u8jPc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Darker Than BLACK 2: 03&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I feel like marathoning evens out the quality of a series.  This makes uneven/flawed series easier to take, but it also takes away some of the highs of really great series because you are past the best moments in an instant.  As there are more flawed shows than awesome shows, and it seems to be easier and more effective to smooth out flaws than really devalue awesome moments, I think the magnitude of the positive effect that marathoning has on flawed shows is greater than that of the negative effect on awesome shows.  I wonder how the numbers would change if you added in the marathoned/weekly shows that you dropped, as those tend to be much worse and would really change the numbers.<br
/> .-= Kabitzin´s last blog ..<a
href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/seaslugteam/~3/dVW_r4u8jPc/" rel="nofollow">Darker Than BLACK 2: 03</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RP</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1272</link> <dc:creator>RP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:46:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1272</guid> <description>I will say it&#039;s definitely a good way to start off. For newer fans, I&#039;d recommend marathoning, if only because you have that huge archive of greats.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say it&#8217;s definitely a good way to start off. For newer fans, I&#8217;d recommend marathoning, if only because you have that huge archive of greats.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RP</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1271</link> <dc:creator>RP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:44:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1271</guid> <description>Yeah, I rarely marathon these days. &lt;em&gt;Especially&lt;/em&gt; after starting to watch more shows weekly. It&#039;s hard to find the time to do both these days. ;-)
The type of show definitely has an impact too. For me, I struggle with anything that&#039;s heavy or stand-alone episodic.
Great shows are probably great shows whether you watch them weekly or marathon them. I guess I just had the misfortune of not really starting to watch anime until later 2007, and not really watching on a weekly basis until the latter half of 2008. I can&#039;t help but wonder what I would&#039;ve thought of Haruhi and Higurashi when they first aired. I want to compare them to my experiences watching Haruhi S2 and Umineko weekly, but that seems somewhat unfair, just because they&#039;re weaker shows in comparison.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I rarely marathon these days. <em>Especially</em> after starting to watch more shows weekly. It&#8217;s hard to find the time to do both these days. <img
src='http://www.rabbitpoets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>The type of show definitely has an impact too. For me, I struggle with anything that&#8217;s heavy or stand-alone episodic.</p><p>Great shows are probably great shows whether you watch them weekly or marathon them. I guess I just had the misfortune of not really starting to watch anime until later 2007, and not really watching on a weekly basis until the latter half of 2008. I can&#8217;t help but wonder what I would&#8217;ve thought of Haruhi and Higurashi when they first aired. I want to compare them to my experiences watching Haruhi S2 and Umineko weekly, but that seems somewhat unfair, just because they&#8217;re weaker shows in comparison.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RP</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1270</link> <dc:creator>RP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:33:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1270</guid> <description>Heh heh, I don&#039;t think I could handle the same type of masochism as you. I&#039;m an impatient kinda guy, so the week-to-week cliffhangers always kill me :p . FMA Brotherhood for example is driving me crazy.
Probably the best marathon vs. weekly comparison experience I had was marathoning the first season of Code Geass and watching the second season week to week. I will say the weekly experience definitely sharpens my memory of certain cruel plot twists like you mention. I can think of a handful of crazy plot twist cliffhangers in the second season, while there&#039;s almost none I remember from the first season (although there were probably less to begin with). But the downside is you do lose that momentum and the crescendos from highlights and lowlights along the way.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh heh, I don&#8217;t think I could handle the same type of masochism as you. I&#8217;m an impatient kinda guy, so the week-to-week cliffhangers always kill me :p . FMA Brotherhood for example is driving me crazy.</p><p>Probably the best marathon vs. weekly comparison experience I had was marathoning the first season of Code Geass and watching the second season week to week. I will say the weekly experience definitely sharpens my memory of certain cruel plot twists like you mention. I can think of a handful of crazy plot twist cliffhangers in the second season, while there&#8217;s almost none I remember from the first season (although there were probably less to begin with). But the downside is you do lose that momentum and the crescendos from highlights and lowlights along the way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RP</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1269</link> <dc:creator>RP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:18:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1269</guid> <description>Good point, the pace of a show definitely does have a lot to do with it. I purposely watched Aria slowly to try to get the most out of that &quot;relaxed&quot; type of feeling. It&#039;s also interesting that you mention that forcing yourself to marathon a slower-paced show might lower your opinion, because that&#039;s the exact problem I had with Azumanga Daioh. I tried to marathon that show and failed, partly because I felt the first half of the season was a too slow-paced. My frustration almost led me to drop it, but I took a little break and eventually got hooked. I wonder if I would&#039;ve enjoyed the beginning more if I&#039;d been more patient.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, the pace of a show definitely does have a lot to do with it. I purposely watched Aria slowly to try to get the most out of that &#8220;relaxed&#8221; type of feeling. It&#8217;s also interesting that you mention that forcing yourself to marathon a slower-paced show might lower your opinion, because that&#8217;s the exact problem I had with Azumanga Daioh. I tried to marathon that show and failed, partly because I felt the first half of the season was a too slow-paced. My frustration almost led me to drop it, but I took a little break and eventually got hooked. I wonder if I would&#8217;ve enjoyed the beginning more if I&#8217;d been more patient.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Emerald Bliss</title><link>http://www.rabbitpoets.com/to-marathon-or-not-to-marathon-a-little-fun-with-numbers/#comment-1268</link> <dc:creator>Emerald Bliss</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:49:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.rabbitpoets.com/?p=6943#comment-1268</guid> <description>Marathoning is best. Watch a good episode then another and another and it continually builds up, whereas watching weekly doesn&#039;t.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marathoning is best. Watch a good episode then another and another and it continually builds up, whereas watching weekly doesn&#8217;t.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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